Comments on PENS UNIVERSE - Real hockey: Malkin Versus Jagr - Part 2

Jagr was one of the best ever to play this game. H...

2009-09-06T02:33:10.034-04:00

Jagr was one of the best ever to play this game. He learned from Mario, and took over after Mario retired. Jagr was the Ross (should have won the Hart as well) when Mario sat out a full season and would win the Hart in 1998. Jagr would also go on to win 4 more Ross trophies. He was amazing to watch and one of the deadliest 1 on 1 players. If the NHL had the "new rules" (post lockout 2005) during Jagr's prime, he would have been unstoppable. Jagr's number will be retired in Pittsburgh and will be remembered as one of the most exciting players ever.

Jagr didn't really leave on his terms as I rec...

2009-07-25T23:25:26.931-04:00

Jagr didn't really leave on his terms as I recall. Both are fun to watch. Jagr definitely had a personality besides the mullet(which is unforgetable). Malkin is a little low on personality, doesn't make up with his looks either.
Supporting player? Not sure where you get that! When Jagr wanted a goal he got one.

to the last anonymous... Yes Jagr was a jagoff wh...

2009-07-25T09:48:04.668-04:00

to the last anonymous...

Yes Jagr was a jagoff when he left this city, but you have to give him his credit for how he played while he was a pittsburgh penguin. Myself i argue he should have his number retired along side Mario.

The most important question: who's the bigger ...

2009-07-25T01:32:11.126-04:00

The most important question: who's the bigger jagoff? Jagr wins hands down - there have been few people in this town who was a bigger jerk than JJ. Complete idiot in every sense of the word. MVP started to show a fun personality this year - time will tell as he begins to acclimate, but I'm optimistic. Advantage: Jag(r)off.

Obviously, the mullet was unbelievable, but all Pe...

2009-07-24T16:30:15.737-04:00

Obviously, the mullet was unbelievable, but all Pens fans have a special soft spot for Geno's parents. In many ways, Mama and Papa Malkin serve as the symbolic parents of the entire Penguins nation, just as Mario is its savior. The mullet was cool, but this is powerful allegory. The Malkins are perfectly adorable, amazingly friendly, and gave us Geno in the first place, and helped him become the phenom he is today. Would we be walking around wearing Stanley Cup Champions gear without him - and his parents? And don't forget; the presence of Geno's parents in the stands has always elevated his game, not to mention Mrs. Malkina's legendary borst. No doubt about it; Vlad and Natalia played a huge role in the Stanley Cup Championship.

Empty Netters put it best.. "Again, Jagr was...

2009-07-24T13:37:01.927-04:00

Empty Netters put it best..

"Again, Jagr was very much a supporting role player at that point."

I can't speak for the other guys on the panel,...

2009-07-23T16:09:49.161-04:00

I can't speak for the other guys on the panel, but in speaking on behalf of Pens Universe, I was in fact 13 in 1990. And to get personal, Jagr was the reason I started to follow hockey in general, and the Pens in particular. Obviously Mario's influence was pretty heavy too.

Just out of curiosity, how many of the panelists w...

2009-07-23T16:02:32.845-04:00

Just out of curiosity, how many of the panelists were older than 12 in the early 90s?

Jag's hair has it over Geno's parents, and they can both dominate like no other. Jagr is/was Crosby-esque down low with the puck in his prime.

It should be noted also that Jagr was winger to Geno's center and their responsibilities are different. That said 3 years in Geno is probably ahead of where Jagr was, but overall Jagr was a great leader for the Pens when Mario sat out the 94 season and after he retired in 97 (Hart winner in 98).

Jagr took over games and led the team for years. I...

2009-07-23T15:33:06.427-04:00

Jagr took over games and led the team for years. I kind of feel like he was clearly the best player in the game for a while, a place that Malkin has not been able to attain as of yet. It's possible Geno grows into it (and I would love that!), but as of now I think Jagr was better...

good post

2009-07-23T15:31:01.197-04:00

good post

PensExperience is spot on... Jagr was amazing when...

2009-07-23T14:33:14.864-04:00

PensExperience is spot on... Jagr was amazing when he wanted to be, but he didn't always want to be. Seeing him in the playoffs last year against the Pens showed me that he STILL had it in him when he wanted... but it was so very rare at that point.

And I love Malkin's parents, but Jagr's mullet lives on and I don't know if in 15 years we'll be talking about Geno's mom and dad.

Malkin is comparable to Jagr, but Crosby compared ...

2009-07-23T14:28:28.999-04:00

Malkin is comparable to Jagr, but Crosby compared with Lemieux? Really? It's still a debate whether Crosby is better than Malkin...